Ortiz, Ramirez Named In 2003 Steroid List
Posted by Seth Walder | Posted in MLB | Posted: July 30, 2009 at 2:22 pm
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David Ortiz and Manny Ramirez were part of the 104 players named on what was supposed to be a confidential list of players who tested positive for steroids in 2003. At the time, both were members of the Boston Red Sox. This is now the third leak of players to reach the press
, after Alex Rodriguez and Sammy Sosa were named earlier this year. A list of the players circulated the internet at the end of June, but turned out to be bogus. This latest leak will surely cause a stir in Boston, where the Red Sox are already struggling offensively.
Let me start briefly with Ramirez in saying that this hardly is a shock to anyone. Since Ramirez was recently caught using PEDs, it seemed awfully unlikely that he didn’t begin taking them until testing had begun. I think most people assumed that Ramirez had been taking illegal substances for years, despite the lack of definitive evidence.
Ortiz is a different story. The poster child of Boston, the man almost single-handedly reversed the curse, has always been thought of as a stand-up guy and legitimate player…at least in New England that is. While this may have surprised some, I for one have been waiting for this day for quite some time now, despite hoping it would never come. But really, and I have been saying this for awhile now, I knew that in all likelihood Ortiz was a steroid user. His numbers perfectly resemble one, considering his struggles with the Twins followed by a late breakout in Boston. I always said it was the Red Sox’ approach to hitting and his ability to tighten his swing to hit inside fastballs that caused his surge, not steroids. But in truth, it probably was the steroids that enabled him to get his bat around quicker.
So what does this mean for Ortiz? Well, he’s got several options, though none of them are pretty. Assuming he is guilty, obviously the best bet is to accept it and apologize, a la Andy Pettitte. Denial (the Roger Clemens route) has yet to really work for anyone. There is by all means the possibility that when testing began in 2004 that Ortiz stopped using steroids or PEDs, which would most likely comfort Red Sox fans. The problem they will see is that the pinnacle of Boston sports, the 2004 World Series Championship, was false, a scam. It will be that the Red Sox barely made it by, and they did so on the back of David Ortiz, the ‘roider. But for Ortiz, maybe not. The next few days will be telling, though the whole story may never be known.
It’s safe to say that this is going to be a major distraction. When the Red Sox finish their day game against the A’s in a couple hours, the clubhouse is going to full of reporters swarming Ortiz. Steve Phillips and Tim Kurkjian said they think this makes it more likely for the Red Sox to pull of a trade for V-Mart or Adrian Gonzalez. Tough to tell at this point. All we know now is it’s a bad day in Boston.

What I’m excited to see is how Sox fans respond to this news. It obviously also depends on how Ortiz handles the situation. If he admits to it, some sort of pride will be kept in tact.
Headline that will be seen everywhere tomorrow: Roid Sox.
What I’m excited to see is how Sox fans respond to this. Obviously it depends on how Ortiz handles the situation. If he admits to it, some sort of pride will be kept in tact.
Headline seen everywhere tomorrow: Roid Sox
i thought my first post didnt work which is why i tried to say the same thing again
This could be my prejudice against the Red Sox speaking, since I am a Yankee fan, but why I am not surprised that Big Papi and PEDs are now synonymous. Just like my perception of A-Rod, Roger Clemens, Andy Pettitte, and other Yankees linked to PEDs, I am sure Red Sox fans cannot help but feel like Papi’s best moments as a hitter are forever tainted.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/spring2009/news/story?id=3911153
David Ortiz is a joke.
What I want to know is: when do we finally come to terms with the fact that Canseco may have actually been pretty close to correct with his stats about PED users? Personally, I think I had my moment of awakening when Brian Roberts confessed to using. It lead me to believe that every other player who’s managed to somehow sneak into an All-Star game has probably stuck a needle in his ass in order to get there. I think Dan Shaughnessy probably has it right, where all any successful team can hang their hat on now is that they outcheated the competition.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2009/07/31/suffering_from_roid_rage/
While Ortiz is almost certainly going to have some trouble removing his feet from his mouth in the fallout from February’s comments, I’m sure he’ll end up bearing through admirably just like Pettitte. Unlike A-Rod, Manny, or Clemens, he’s not an asshole, and the media won’t hold it against him the same way they did for those others.
On a related note: how many steroids “reveals” like this will it take before McGwire and Sosa and Clemens get inducted into the HOF? For better or for worse, this is baseball’s steroid era. While guys like Jeter (in whom I put probably more faith than any other player of today in spite of my love of the Sox) managed to hold their heads above and still compete, it’s probably time to recognize that when roided pitchers face roided batters, we should still recognize who’s the best. Steroids won’t make your off-speed stuff move more or your line drives escape gloves (inside the park, that is).
All that said, I still am hugely disappointed in Papi. This hurts a lot, and I hate that it reflects on the WS titles, too.
How’s that for a first comment?